nodealbrexiteer
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Apr 14, 2023 14:24:59 GMT
Many have in recent years but it is by no means mandatory. That said, all councils should scrap the by-thirds system-it wastes money, causes voter fatigue, and forces unacceptable boundaries on communities especially in more rural districts. Voting by thirds causes voter fatigue, please provide evidence to support this. I prefer by thirds, voters have a say more often, probably why the current government doesn't seem to like it. Other fractions may be available
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r34t
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Post by r34t on Apr 14, 2023 15:25:07 GMT
"One responsibility of politicians is to take difficult but necessary decisions. This is less likely to happen when an election is on the horizon" Discuss To give the perspective of a local government employee, we much preferred all outs, as it led to more sensible administrative decisions, as the politicians weren't campaigning all the time. So yes on the whole better decisions, although there's no accounting for the idiocy of many politicians. That’s my experience as part of an administration. Both sentences. 😀
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Apr 16, 2023 8:52:34 GMT
Metropolitan Borough Councils (All out elections) owainsutton (Green) Hale on Trafford Metropolitan Borough Councils (One third rule) markgoodair (Lib Dem) Horbury and South Osset on Wakefield Unitary Councils (All out elections) Ben Walker (Labour) Chester City and the Garden Quarter on Cheshire West and Chester Sharon (Labour) Swaythling on Southampton Unitary Councils (One third rule) r34t (Labour) Bath and North East Somerset bluelabour (Labour) Skelton East on Redcar and Cleveland District Councils (All out elections) Pimpernal (Swale Independent Alliance) Borden and Grove Park on Swale District Councils (One third rule) lackeroftalent (Green) Smalley, Shipley & Horsley Woodhouse on Amber Valley swindonlad (Lib Dem) on Swindon ColinJ (Labour) Chorleywood South and Maple Cross on Three Rivers nick10 (Residents) Walton Central on Elmbridge Mayoral Elections (All out elections) Northern Ireland Councils (All out elections)
Next weekend I shall sort this list into a battleground ranked by % swing needed to gain / % majority, therefore for those candidates who have not identified which ward they are standing in, could they do so please?
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Post by lackeroftalent on Apr 16, 2023 8:57:42 GMT
Amber Valley has moved from thirds to all outs from this year.
Good luck to all vote UK candidates.
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Khunanup
Lib Dem
Portsmouth Liberal Democrats
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Post by Khunanup on Apr 16, 2023 11:26:25 GMT
Metropolitan Borough Councils (All out elections) owainsutton (Green) Hale on Trafford Metropolitan Borough Councils (One third rule) markgoodair (Lib Dem) Horbury and South Osset on Wakefield Unitary Councils (All out elections) Ben Walker (Labour) Chester City and the Garden Quarter on Cheshire West and Chester Sharon (Labour) Swaythling on Southampton Unitary Councils (One third rule) r34t (Labour) Bath and North East Somerset bluelabour (Labour) Skelton East on Redcar and Cleveland District Councils (All out elections) Pimpernal (Swale Independent Alliance) Borden and Grove Park on Swale District Councils (One third rule) lackeroftalent (Green) Smalley, Shipley & Horsley Woodhouse on Amber Valley swindonlad (Lib Dem) on Swindon ColinJ (Labour) Chorleywood South and Maple Cross on Three Rivers nick10 (Residents) Walton Central on Elmbridge Mayoral Elections (All out elections) Northern Ireland Councils (All out elections)
Next weekend I shall sort this list into a battleground ranked by % swing needed to gain / % majority, therefore for those candidates who have not identified which ward they are standing in, could they do so please? Swindon is a unitary and BaNES is all outs.
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Post by greenhert on Apr 16, 2023 12:41:36 GMT
Voting by thirds causes voter fatigue, please provide evidence to support this. I prefer by thirds, voters have a say more often, probably why the current government doesn't seem to like it. Other fractions may be available Three councils have by halves elections, notably Cheltenham, Gosport and Oxford. Why only those councils?
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European Lefty
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Post by European Lefty on Apr 16, 2023 12:43:27 GMT
Other fractions may be available Three councils have by halves elections, notably Cheltenham, Gosport and Oxford. Why only those councils? Plus Nuneaton & Bedworth and Adur at least
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Sharon
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Post by Sharon on Apr 16, 2023 12:45:07 GMT
Southampton is all out this year, due to boundary changes, but reverts to thirds next year.
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Sharon
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Post by Sharon on Apr 16, 2023 12:45:45 GMT
Other fractions may be available Three councils have by halves elections, notably Cheltenham, Gosport and Oxford. Why only those councils? Fareham also elects by halves.
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Sg1
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Post by Sg1 on Apr 16, 2023 12:48:01 GMT
Three councils have by halves elections, notably Cheltenham, Gosport and Oxford. Why only those councils? Plus Nuneaton & Bedworth and Adur at least I believe (though I don't know for certain) that Nuneaton and Bedworth will move to all outs next year.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 16, 2023 13:14:25 GMT
Other fractions may be available Three councils have by halves elections, notably Cheltenham, Gosport and Oxford. Why only those councils? It has to be the council's choice to adopt halves. I think they are all councils which previously elected by thirds. Halves is neither fish nor fowl - doesn't maintain the continuity provided by thirds elections, but doesn't avoid the sense of continuous electioneering either.
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Khunanup
Lib Dem
Portsmouth Liberal Democrats
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Post by Khunanup on Apr 16, 2023 14:51:26 GMT
Three councils have by halves elections, notably Cheltenham, Gosport and Oxford. Why only those councils? Fareham also elects by halves. And Hastings.
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Post by grahammurray on Apr 16, 2023 14:55:38 GMT
Fareham also elects by halves. And Hastings. Plus Adur and Nuneaton & Bedworth.
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Khunanup
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Portsmouth Liberal Democrats
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Post by Khunanup on Apr 16, 2023 14:55:52 GMT
Three councils have by halves elections, notably Cheltenham, Gosport and Oxford. Why only those councils? It has to be the council's choice to adopt halves. I think they are all councils which previously elected by thirds. Halves is neither fish nor fowl - doesn't maintain the continuity provided by thirds elections, but doesn't avoid the sense of continuous electioneering either. Yes. Hastings used to be thirds but with all two member wards (so the campaigning was really bitty) and then moved to electing by halves when they had their boundary change in 2002. I don't know if pre early 00s there was the facility to elect by halves?
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Khunanup
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Portsmouth Liberal Democrats
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Post by Khunanup on Apr 16, 2023 14:56:49 GMT
Plus Adur and Nuneaton & Bedworth. Already mentioned by European Lefty above.
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Post by owainsutton on Apr 16, 2023 15:03:11 GMT
Did elections by thirds first come into existence with the 1974 reorganisations? Or does it predate that?
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Post by andrewp on Apr 16, 2023 15:05:26 GMT
Did elections by thirds first come into existence with the 1974 reorganisations? Or does it predate that? It predates it. I know Birmingham did it from at least before World War I
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iang
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Post by iang on Apr 16, 2023 15:10:41 GMT
I've said it on here before, but two member wards with elections alternate years seems the best way to me.
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Post by carolus on Apr 16, 2023 15:18:01 GMT
Plus Adur and Nuneaton & Bedworth. Already mentioned by European Lefty above. And in addition let's not forget Adur and Nuneaton & Bedworth
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Post by owainsutton on Apr 16, 2023 15:40:34 GMT
"Thirds? You were lucky. We had seven seats, elections every 34 weeks, the loser was doused in hot tar, and we had to PAY t'returning officer for t'privilege!"
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