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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 9, 2019 14:20:05 GMT
It promises to be the most historic poll since the last one. He is a genuine gold-plated pratt, isn't he Here's a radio programme he ought to listen to. (Roger Awan-Scully) www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000c2w6
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 9, 2019 14:33:11 GMT
"Historically high proportion of Welsh people believe that Roger Scully should stop clownishly ramping polls." "100 per cent, a change from the previous 99 per cent plus one per cent who didn't know".
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Post by johng on Dec 9, 2019 14:41:13 GMT
Based on another tweet he's just sent, it seems as though the Conservatives have topped/ nearly topped this poll.
Not sure how this is a gosh/crumbs/blimey event as they have topped polls in the recent past.
The last poll showed Lab 38% and Con 32% and before that it was Lab 29% Con 28% - a bit of a Labour 'surge'. The one before that actually had the Tories on top 29-25.
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 9, 2019 17:01:31 GMT
Lab 40% Con 37% PC 10% LD 6% BRX 5% Grn 1% Oth 1% www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-12-09/new-poll-shows-conservatives-set-to-gain-welsh-seats-as-labour-s-lead-is-cut/"According to the results, Labour lose Wrexham, Vale of Clwyd, Gower, Cardiff North, Delyn, Bridgend, Clwyd South, and Alyn & Deeside to the Conservatives, who would also win back Brecon & Radnorshire, which they lost to the Liberal Democrats in a by-election earlier this year. Plaid Cymru would lose Ceredigion to the Liberal Democrats."
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Post by jamie on Dec 9, 2019 17:07:15 GMT
“Genuinely historical” my arse
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Dec 9, 2019 17:14:41 GMT
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Post by willlucky on Dec 9, 2019 17:15:44 GMT
“Genuinely historical” my arse Well, we are close and this would be their best result in Wales in at least a century.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 9, 2019 17:17:50 GMT
“Genuinely historical” my arse Thank you Father Jamie.
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Post by kefin on Dec 9, 2019 17:41:53 GMT
5% high? Not really if the Brexit Party are standing down in hundreds of English seats but only 8 Welsh seats presumably the national percentage would be different in just a Wales poll. I think that the Brexit party chances of getting anybody elected anywhere in the UK would come down to a high percentage vote in a handful of target seats rather than any indication of a country wide percentage averaged out.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 10, 2019 16:04:31 GMT
I had a genuinely historic Welsh cake this morning.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jan 29, 2020 7:57:07 GMT
Welsh Westminister poll:
Con: 41% Lab: 36 PC: 13 LD: 5 Brexit: 3 Green: 2
Projected Westminster seats
Labour: 18 (-4) Conservatives: 18 (+4) Plaid Cymru: 4 (n/c)
Assembly Constituency (changes from Dec YouGov poll)
Conservatives: 35% (+4) Labour: 33% (no change) Plaid Cymru: 19% (+1) Liberal Democrats: 5% (-2) Brexit Party: 4% (-3) Greens: 3% (no change) Others: 1%
Assembly Regional vote
Conservatives: 32% (+4) Labour: 32% (no change) Plaid Cymru: 19% (no change) Liberal Democrats: 5% (-1) Greens: 3% (-1) Brexit Party: 3% (-4) Others: 5% (+1)
Projected Assembly/Senedd seats:
Lab: 24 (-5) Con: 22 (+11) PC: 13 (+1) LD: 1
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Post by andrewp on Jan 29, 2020 8:13:28 GMT
Welsh Westminister poll: Con: 41% Lab: 36 PC: 13 LD: 5 Brexit: 3 Green: 2 Projected Westminster seats Labour: 18 (-4) Conservatives: 18 (+4) Plaid Cymru: 4 (n/c) Assembly Constituency (changes from Dec YouGov poll) Conservatives: 35% Biggest ever Conservative share in a Welsh assembly constituency poll apparently. Presumably the 4 Westminster changes on those numbers would be Alyn and Deeside, Newport E, Newport W and Gower I had to check whether Roger Scully found that poll to be historic, and he did......
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jan 29, 2020 8:36:12 GMT
And of course those who don’t like the prediction are questioning it:
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 29, 2020 14:00:48 GMT
It's completely pointless to run polls for this right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 15:54:41 GMT
Can I just drag the thread off topic for a moment to comment on what an absolute abomination that building is. Makes the eyesore Scottish Parliament look like a beauty spot.
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Jan 29, 2020 17:01:03 GMT
Can I just drag the thread off topic for a moment to comment on what an absolute abomination that building is. Makes the eyesore Scottish Parliament look like a beauty spot. Is it finished? If so I have to agree its awful.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jan 30, 2020 8:22:03 GMT
Can I just drag the thread off topic for a moment to comment on what an absolute abomination that building is. Makes the eyesore Scottish Parliament look like a beauty spot. I agree. It's also in a terrible location – I recall Simon Jenkins once saying that the locations of the Principality Stadium and the Senedd ought to be swapped. I'd rather move it to Aberystwyth though.
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Post by kefin on Jan 30, 2020 9:53:27 GMT
It is awful isn't it? Was supposed to cost £11m ended up costing £69m and was unbelievably praised by AM after AM and assorted Nat's in endless sycophantic statements which clearly failed to acknowledge the irony ( disgrace) of the massive overspend and lack of value for money that just about sums up the whole organisation in a nutshell.
Just imagine if a boss in a private firm appointed an employee as project manager of a scheme that came in even half over budget never mind 6 times over budget. The employee would be down the job centre before their feet could touch the ground, different rules for the Welsh Assembly of course.
The finished building is indeed totally soulless, consisting inside of a number of bleak featureless grim meeting rooms replete in oversized portakabin 1990s scuffed drab decor. The building leaked like a sieve for a number of years after completion ( no idea if all the leaks were ever sorted out ) and the only interesting feature, the wood funnel thing and the rest of the decorative wooden roof has been looking decidedly washed out and needing revarnishing for quite some time now very much like those greying washed out unseasoned wood cladding facings on flat complexes and other buildings all over the UK. I expect the next announcement to be £millions to be spent refurbing the wood roof thingy.
The slate frontage steps and low walls immediately in front of the building also look terribly washed out and unattractive and have aged very quickly into a drab unattractive mottled light grey depressing first impression instead of weathering into an attractive patina.
The ultimate irony is that the shoddy glass greenhouse design was described as representing .......Openess and transparancy.........this in regards to an organisation which has turned down FOI request after FOI request like no other over the years.
This edifice to incompetence and inefficiency is almost beyond parody.
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Post by kefin on Jan 30, 2020 9:57:37 GMT
Duplicate in error Rather ironic really, I'll have to sack myself
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 30, 2020 10:34:55 GMT
It is awful isn't it? Was supposed to cost £11m ended up costing £69m and was unbelievably praised by AM after AM and assorted Nat's in endless sycophantic statements which clearly failed to acknowledge the irony ( disgrace) of the massive overspend and lack of value for money that just about sums up the whole organisation in a nutshell. Just imagine if a boss in a private firm appointed an employee as project manager of a scheme that came in even half over budget never mind 6 times over budget. The employee would be down the job centre before their feet could touch the ground, different rules for the Welsh Assembly of course. The finished building is indeed totally soulless, consisting inside of a number of bleak featureless grim meeting rooms replete in oversized portakabin 1990s scuffed drab decor. The building leaked like a sieve for a number of years after completion ( no idea if all the leaks were ever sorted out ) and the only interesting feature, the wood funnel thing and the rest of the decorative wooden roof has been looking decidedly washed out and needing revarnishing for quite some time now very much like those greying washed out unseasoned wood cladding facings on flat complexes and other buildings all over the UK. I expect the next announcement to be £millions to be spent refurbing the wood roof thingy. The slate frontage steps and low walls immediately in front of the building also look terribly washed out and unattractive and have aged very quickly into a drab unattractive mottled light grey depressing first impression instead of weathering into an attractive patina. The ultimate irony is that the shoddy glass greenhouse design was described as representing .......Openess and transparancy.........this in regards to an organisation which has turned down FOI request after FOI request like no other over the years. This edifice to incompetence and inefficiency is almost beyond parody. I suggest we disband the Welsh Assembly and bulldoze the building to create a Park.
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