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Post by jamie on Sept 13, 2019 10:08:13 GMT
Hypothetical polling...
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Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 13, 2019 10:19:05 GMT
Stretching the meaning of sensational a bit further there...
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Post by MeirionGwril on Sept 13, 2019 10:25:15 GMT
Stretching the meaning of sensational a bit further there... in what way? Isn't a change from single digit percentages to above 20% in a few months a tad sensational? And for Jamie, aren't all polls hypothetical...
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 13, 2019 11:30:23 GMT
Stretching the meaning of sensational a bit further there... in what way? Isn't a change from single digit percentages to above 20% in a few months a tad sensational? And for Jamie, aren't all polls hypothetical... Jamie is pointing out that questions asking "how would you vote if X was different" are notoriously unreliable because people in general are really bad at guessing how changes in circumstances would affect their voting intention.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 12:20:04 GMT
It seems very unlikely Wales could stay in Europe and leave the UK
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Post by yellowperil on Sept 13, 2019 12:30:01 GMT
Did I understand correctly that under these conditions 51% of Plaid voters would vote for independence, but 55% of Lib Dem voters would do so?...Hmm
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Post by Penddu on Sept 13, 2019 12:31:22 GMT
I am surprised with the Lib Dem vote as the average LD voter in Wales is English....
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 13, 2019 12:36:14 GMT
I am surprised with the Lib Dem vote as the average LD voter in Wales is English.... [Citation needed], as I think they say.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 13, 2019 12:36:35 GMT
I am surprised with the Lib Dem vote as the average LD voter in Wales is English.... Average LD voter in Wales is English - care to elaborate? As for the figure, is it really unsurprising that people are looking at the greener grass alternative? People are looking for easy answers to complex solutions. Welsh independence will be just as messy, uncertain and destabilising as Brexit. As for the hypothetical question “Would you support an independent Wales within the EU” the question really should reference issues like The Euro and Schengen which Wales would need to adopt.
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Post by hedgehog on Sept 13, 2019 16:18:01 GMT
I am surprised with the Lib Dem vote as the average LD voter in Wales is English.... Average LD voter in Wales is English - care to elaborate? As for the figure, is it really unsurprising that people are looking at the greener grass alternative? People are looking for easy answers to complex solutions. Welsh independence will be just as messy, uncertain and destabilising as Brexit. As for the hypothetical question “Would you support an independent Wales within the EU” the question really should reference issues like The Euro and Schengen which Wales would need to adopt. I thought it was just the Welsh Greens that were derided as being English.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 13, 2019 18:15:41 GMT
I'd be fascinated to see the regional breakdowns. I can't imagine support for independence is big in Shotton.
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Post by manchesterman on Sept 13, 2019 20:49:16 GMT
Did I understand correctly that under these conditions 51% of Plaid voters would vote for independence, but 55% of Lib Dem voters would do so?...Hmm If the poll is suggesting only 51% of Welsh Independence party (for that's what they are) voters would vote for independence, then I suggest it's piffle!
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 13, 2019 22:31:46 GMT
I'd be fascinated to see the regional breakdowns. I can't imagine support for independence is big in Shotton. Ahem. 'Greater Wirral'...
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Post by jamie on Sept 14, 2019 11:14:10 GMT
I'd be fascinated to see the regional breakdowns. I can't imagine support for independence is big in Shotton. Ahem. 'Greater Wirral'... Liverpool City Region West.
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 14, 2019 11:22:56 GMT
Ahem. 'Greater Wirral'... Liverpool City Region West. Careful now... 🤬
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 14, 2019 14:19:00 GMT
Liverpool City Region West. Careful now... 🤬 Down with this sort of thing!
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 15, 2019 8:53:30 GMT
Ahem. 'Greater Wirral'... Liverpool City Region West. Can we have a poll on Independence from Liverpool? 😉
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Post by Penddu on Sept 15, 2019 13:31:56 GMT
I am surprised with the Lib Dem vote as the average LD voter in Wales is English.... Average LD voter in Wales is English - care to elaborate? I have no statistical data - and maybe 'average' is too strong a word but there definitely appears to be a disproprtionate number of English 'settlers' in the LDs - definitely in Ceredigion - and also among students.
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Post by Penddu on Oct 14, 2019 7:43:25 GMT
New Welsh Political Barometer poll due today....😁
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Post by carolus on Oct 14, 2019 12:19:39 GMT
New Welsh Political Barometer poll due today....😁 Delayed until tomorrow.
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