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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 1, 2017 15:41:42 GMT
Plaid to gain none perhaps? Or Ynys Mon at best?
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jun 1, 2017 15:48:51 GMT
Personally I always thought Plaid would stay on three.
I've got money on the Conservatives gaining Ynys Mon, I think that's less likely now but still not impossible.
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Post by thetop on Jun 1, 2017 15:51:37 GMT
Ladies and Gentlemen, your final Welsh Baromitor Poll (ITV/Cardiff University) to be conducted before the election by YouGov: Lab ......46% (+2) Con ......35% (+1) PC ......8% (-1) LD ......5% (-1) UKIP ..5% (nc) Other ..1% (nc) Changes since last poll (18th-21st May).
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Post by Tony Otim on Jun 1, 2017 15:51:49 GMT
Plaid to gain none perhaps? Or Ynys Mon at best? A swing away from Plaid Cymru to Labour would almost certainly make Ynys Mon a Labour hold. In fact Plaid would be lucky to hold all of their seats at Westminster on those kinds of figures, never mind gaining anything. Not that I'm buying it though. I'm not convinced how much a national swing is likely to affect Ynys Mon. It wouldn't be the first time a party had lost vote share and finished with more seats (or indeed increased vote share and won less seats). But those polling figures are pretty dreadful for Plaid
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 1, 2017 15:53:50 GMT
Personally I always thought Plaid would stay on three. I've got money on the Conservatives gaining Ynys Mon, I think that's less likely now but still not impossible. Me too. More confident of my bets on labour in Alan & Deedide, clwyd south, grower and Newport west
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 1, 2017 15:55:08 GMT
Sodding iPhones. You get the idea anyway ...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 17:18:11 GMT
I have backed Labour heavily to hold Wrexham and a small bet for them to hold Ynys Mon.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jun 1, 2017 19:41:11 GMT
Sodding iPhones. You get the idea anyway ... I like "Alan and Deedide". A step up from the 2016 Assembly Election campaign when it was called "Alan & Deeside" on the UKIP campaign website (along with Arfon being referred to as "Arvon").
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 19:50:47 GMT
I like "Alan and Deedide". A step up from the 2016 Assembly Election campaign when it was called "Alan & Deeside" on the UKIP campaign website (along with Arfon being referred to as "Arvon"). The latter is surely a correction rather than error
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jun 1, 2017 19:53:00 GMT
A step up from the 2016 Assembly Election campaign when it was called "Alan & Deeside" on the UKIP campaign website (along with Arfon being referred to as "Arvon"). The latter is surely a correction rather than error The absence of the letter "V" in the Welsh alphabet says otherwise.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 1, 2017 19:54:03 GMT
The latter is surely a correction rather than error The absence of the letter "V" in the Welsh alphabet says otherwise. Caernarfon used to be transliterated into English as Carnarvon. Older people would be used to that spelling.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jun 1, 2017 19:58:22 GMT
The absence of the letter "V" in the Welsh alphabet says otherwise. Caernarfon used to be transliterated into English as Carnarvon. Older people would be used to that spelling. That was once the case, but it's safe to say that these days the amount of people who use the Anglicised spellings is practically negligible.
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 1, 2017 20:56:03 GMT
Sodding iPhones. You get the idea anyway ... I like "Alan and Deedide". The Chas and Dave of Wales. Great bar room act.
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 1, 2017 21:04:17 GMT
Caernarfon used to be transliterated into English as Carnarvon. Older people would be used to that spelling. That was once the case, but it's safe to say that these days the amount of people who use the Anglicised spellings is practically negligible. Rubbish! All sensible people do.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jun 1, 2017 21:10:24 GMT
That was once the case, but it's safe to say that these days the amount of people who use the Anglicised spellings is practically negligible. Rubbish! All sensible people do. Now, go into the middle of Caernarfon and say that. I dare you!
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 1, 2017 21:21:42 GMT
Rubbish! All sensible people do. Now, go into the middle of Caernarfon and say that. I dare you! Now! Where would that be? Anywhere near Carnarvon where we have one of our castles to keep you chaps in order?
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jun 1, 2017 21:34:34 GMT
Now, go into the middle of Caernarfon and say that. I dare you! Now! Where would that be? Anywhere near Carnarvon where we have one of our castles to keep you chaps in order? Carnarvon? Never heard of it. Oddly enough, Caernarfon also happens to have a rather nice castle, now under the care of Welsh Government's historical site preservation agency, Cadw; it also happens to be home to a lot of Welsh speakers who I imagine won't take too kindly to people who deliberately misspell the name of their town whilst under the misapprehension that they're being clever. A lot of places in Wales use Welsh language place names, many of which have since become normalised and have superceeded the old Anglicised spellings. If nothing else it accentuates the rich diversity of the culture and heritage of the British Isles. The mispronunciation of names is forgivable, deliberately misspelling them for the sake of being obtuse, less so.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 21:40:42 GMT
Now! Where would that be? Anywhere near Carnarvon where we have one of our castles to keep you chaps in order? Carnarvon? Never heard of it. Oddly enough, Caernarfon also happens to have a rather nice castle, now under the care of Welsh Government's historical site preservation agency, Cadw; it also happens to be home to a lot of Welsh speakers who I imagine won't take too kindly to people who deliberately misspell the name of their town whilst under the misapprehension that they're being clever. A lot of places in Wales use Welsh language place names, many of which have since become normalised and have superceeded the old Anglicised spellings. If nothing else it accentuates the rich diversity of the culture and heritage of the British Isles. The mispronunciation of names is forgivable, deliberately misspelling them for the sake of being obtuse, less so. Operation windup complete Nothing agaisnt Welsh speakers, but boyo its fun winding them up.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jun 1, 2017 21:43:50 GMT
Carnarvon? Never heard of it. Oddly enough, Caernarfon also happens to have a rather nice castle, now under the care of Welsh Government's historical site preservation agency, Cadw; it also happens to be home to a lot of Welsh speakers who I imagine won't take too kindly to people who deliberately misspell the name of their town whilst under the misapprehension that they're being clever. A lot of places in Wales use Welsh language place names, many of which have since become normalised and have superceeded the old Anglicised spellings. If nothing else it accentuates the rich diversity of the culture and heritage of the British Isles. The mispronunciation of names is forgivable, deliberately misspelling them for the sake of being obtuse, less so. Operation windup complete Nothing agaisnt Welsh speakers, but boyo its fun winding them up. Actually, I couldn't hold a conversation in Welsh to save my life. Also, I'm English by birth and ancestry, but having lived here for over 90% of my life, suffice to say I've gone native somewhat.
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 1, 2017 21:44:22 GMT
Now! Where would that be? Anywhere near Carnarvon where we have one of our castles to keep you chaps in order? Carnarvon? Never heard of it. Oddly enough, Caernarfon also happens to have a rather nice castle, now under the care of Welsh Government's historical site preservation agency, Cadw; it also happens to be home to a lot of Welsh speakers who I imagine won't take too kindly to people who deliberately misspell the name of their town whilst under the misapprehension that they're being clever. A lot of places in Wales use Welsh language place names, many of which have since become normalised and have superceeded the old Anglicised spellings. If nothing else it accentuates the rich diversity of the culture and heritage of the British Isles. The mispronunciation of names is forgivable, deliberately misspelling them for the sake of being obtuse, less so. Quite so. I shall continue doing it then.
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