J.G.Harston
Lib Dem
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 3, 2019 16:31:00 GMT
Why a county-wide district council with no county council? Why not a county-wide county council with no districts? I thought the process was that where you abolished the county functions and a district took them over you had a unitary district (York, Hull), but where you abolished the districts and had a county taking over district functions you had a unitary county (Northumberland, East Riding). It's probably got something to do with MK already having been hived off into a unitary district while still being part of ceremonial Bucks. Ah, so structurally it's a county with two unitary districts.
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Chris from Brum
Lib Dem
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jun 3, 2019 16:32:30 GMT
It's probably got something to do with MK already having been hived off into a unitary district while still being part of ceremonial Bucks. Ah, so structurally it's a county with two unitary districts. Looks like it. But somebody here will probably know better.
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Foggy
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Long may it rain
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Post by Foggy on Jun 3, 2019 22:35:33 GMT
I agree on sweeping the lot away. Firstly, we should use 1974 as a base year and reform from there. Have a mix of counties with empowered, sometimes slightly larger, parishes and county boroughs covering towns & cities. If you mean in terms of an attempt at near-uniform two-tier primary authorities (and it looks like you don't), then I agree. The internal boundaries of counties could be redrawn from scratch, as they might well need to be different from what was deemed to be viable 45 years ago. If you mean we should use the artificial abominations of Avon, Humberside and the Mets as a starting point for the building blocks of local government, then I of course disagree profoundly.
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ColinJ
Labour
Living in the Past
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Post by ColinJ on Jun 4, 2019 6:44:08 GMT
Very sneakily, and despite earlier saying final recommendations for new arrangements for Harrow were to be published today (4 June), they were in fact published a week ago on 28 May. "The final recommendations propose that Harrow Council should have 55 councillors. This is 8 fewer than the current number of councillors. Those councillors should represent 11 three-councillor wards, and 11 two-councillor wards. Harrow should have 22 wards, one more than there are now. The boundaries of all of the existing wards should change. The recommendations must now be approved by Parliament. A draft order - the legal document which brings into force our recommendations - will be laid in Parliament. Subject to parliamentary scrutiny, the new electoral arrangements will come into force at the local elections in 2022."
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YL
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Post by YL on Jun 4, 2019 7:04:45 GMT
Ah, so structurally it's a county with two unitary districts. Looks like it. But somebody here will probably know better. The structure of English local (or, in this case, "local") government, especially as concerns the definition of "county", is a mess. Milton Keynes is part of the ceremonial county of Buckinghamshire, but it's not part of Buckinghamshire for other purposes: it is a "county" in the sense defined by the 1972 Act in its own right, but without a county council. Here's the text of the relevant part of the Buckinghamshire (Borough of Milton Keynes) (Structural Change) Order 1995. I think (but haven't checked!) that this is the case for every 1990s-vintage unitary except the Berkshire ones (Berkshire was retained as a county in the sense of the 1972 Act with several districts, but without a county council; this is why the last completed parliamentary boundary review didn't treat the unitaries there as separate counties) and possibly the Isle of Wight. It is also true for most of the more recent ones. So as of next year rump Buckinghamshire and Milton Keynes will be two separate 1972 Act counties, neither of which will have a county council and both of which will have just a single district coterminous with the county, which will together make up the ceremonial county of Buckinghamshire.
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Post by evergreenadam on Jun 6, 2019 6:29:56 GMT
Draft recommendations for ward boundary changes in Hounslow have been published. Now proposing an increase in Councillors from 60 to 61.
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Post by evergreenadam on Jun 6, 2019 6:30:40 GMT
Hillingdon final recommendations published by LGBCE.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 22:54:28 GMT
Bromley review launched today, reducing from 60 to 58 councillors, accepting the proposal of the Labour group against the council (which wanted to increase to 62)
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Post by evergreenadam on Jun 26, 2019 7:32:11 GMT
Bromley review launched today, reducing from 60 to 58 councillors, accepting the proposal of the Labour group against the council (which wanted to increase to 62) Though things can change at draft recommendations stage. Both Ealing and Hounslow were to stay the same size only for the draft recommendations to add an extra councillor. I really hope these ones go to a further round of consultation as the original warding patterns submitted by consultees were a wasted effort and new issues emerge.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 20:02:32 GMT
Bromley review launched today, reducing from 60 to 58 councillors, accepting the proposal of the Labour group against the council (which wanted to increase to 62) Though things can change at draft recommendations stage. Both Ealing and Hounslow were to stay the same size only for the draft recommendations to add an extra councillor. I really hope these ones go to a further round of consultation as the original warding patterns submitted by consultees were a wasted effort and new issues emerge. Yes, they can go up and down by 1, but not aware of recent cases going beyond that.
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Post by greenhert on Jul 2, 2019 13:33:03 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 2, 2019 13:44:38 GMT
Good that the LGBCE have reverted to the sensible choice of Queens Park as a name for the ward in Brent, not that silly and overlong alternative they had in the provisional recs.
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Post by evergreenadam on Jul 2, 2019 16:20:45 GMT
Shame the ridiculous carve up of central Acton has gone ahead, once a bad warding pattern is put forward at draft recommendations stage it seems it’s too late to do anything about it.
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 10, 2019 11:17:43 GMT
Two new electoral changes orders have been published: The Cornwall (Electoral Changes) Order 2019 (S.I. 2019/1088). Introduces new division boundaries for Cornwall council to come into effect at the 2021 election, and makes associated changes to electoral arrangements for the parishes of (deep breath) Bodmin, Bude-Stratton, Camborne, Carn Brea, Dobwalls and Trewidland, Egloshayle, Falmouth, Hayle, Helston, Kenwyn, Launceston, Liskeard, Ludgvan, Luxulyan, Newquay, Penryn, Pentewan Valley, Penzance, Perranzabuloe, Redruth, St Agnes, St Austell, St Clement, St Ives, St Stephen-in-Brannel, Saltash, Torpoint, Treverbyn and Truro. There are eighty-seven new divisions, all of which are single-member. The Hartlepool (Electoral Changes) Order 2019 (S.I. 2019/1089). Introduces new ward boundaries for Hartlepool council to come into effect at the 2020 election, and restores the system of election by thirds in following years. There are twelve new wards, all of which elect three councillors. Schedule 3 to the Children and Social Work Act 2017 (Consequential Amendments) (Social Workers) Regulations 2019 (S.I. 2018/1094) has updated some secondary electoral legislation to reflect recent changes in the law relating to social workers. Proxy vote applications on grounds of blindness or disability have to be signed off by a professional, and social workers are on the list of professionals that can do so.
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Post by hullenedge on Jul 15, 2019 20:17:56 GMT
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Post by hullenedge on Jul 15, 2019 20:23:24 GMT
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Post by John Chanin on Jul 16, 2019 7:20:51 GMT
Very useful summary of issues and contradictions. Nice to know that I think in terms of “functional economic areas”.
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 17, 2019 14:56:58 GMT
Four new electoral changes orders have been published: The Basingstoke and Deane (Electoral Changes) Order 2019 (S.I. 2019/1122). Introduces new ward boundaries for Basingstoke and Deane council to come into effect at the 2020 election, and restores the system of election by thirds in following years. There are eighteen new wards, all of which elect three councillors. The Cambridge (Electoral Changes) Order 2019 (S.I. 2019/1123). Introduces new ward boundaries for Cambridge council to come into effect at the 2020 election, and restores the system of election by thirds in following years. There are fourteen new wards, all of which elect three councillors. The Chorley (Electoral Changes) Order 2019 (S.I. 2019/1124). Introduces new ward boundaries for Chorley council to come into effect at the 2020 election, restores the system of election by thirds in following years, and makes associated changes to electoral arrangements for the parishes of Clayton-le-Woods and Euxton. There are fourteen new wards, all of which elect three councillors. The Salford (Electoral Changes) Order 2019 (S.I. 2019/1125). Introduces new ward boundaries for Salford council to come into effect at the 2020 election, and restores the system of election by thirds in following years. There are twenty new wards, all of which elect three councillors.
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 26, 2019 7:11:08 GMT
A new electoral changes order has been published: The Oxford (Electoral Changes) Order 2019 (S.I. 2019/1162). Introduces new ward boundaries for Oxford council to come into effect at the 2020 election, restores the system of election by halves in following years, and makes associated changes to electoral arrangements for the parishes of Blackbird Leys and littlemore. There are twenty-four new wards, all of which elect two councillors.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 30, 2019 14:24:36 GMT
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