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Post by lancastrian on Dec 11, 2019 17:35:31 GMT
Opinium have consistently had the highest Tory leads, so if (discounting this Qriously outfit) 12 points is the highest lead any poll has for the Tories tonight, that's less than the 13 point lead BMG gave them in 2017. So the Tories are by that measure in a worse position than 2017.
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Post by archaeologist on Dec 11, 2019 18:48:41 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 13, 2019 12:01:55 GMT
Almost spot on, though it gives me little pleasure to say so.
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Post by Jack on Jan 18, 2020 20:15:39 GMT
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Post by BossMan on Jan 18, 2020 22:46:18 GMT
The political equivalent of a second honeymoon, nine and a half years after becoming a governing party. Although during 2017-2019 we had an anti-Tory coalition in all but name, certainly as far as Brexit was concerned. Post-election bounces aren't unprecedented. The change of Labour leader may well have an effect - temporarily or not - in three months' time.
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Post by andrewp on Jan 18, 2020 22:51:07 GMT
The political equivalent of a second honeymoon, nine and a half years after becoming a governing party. Although during 2017-2019 we had an anti-Tory coalition in all but name, certainly as far as Brexit was concerned. Post-election bounces aren't unprecedented. The change of Labour leader may well have an effect - temporarily or not - in three months' time. Could we see 50% Conservative? Unlikely I’d have thought but getting close. I’m surprised that 3% still said Brexit Party.
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Post by BossMan on Jan 18, 2020 23:11:15 GMT
The political equivalent of a second honeymoon, nine and a half years after becoming a governing party. Although during 2017-2019 we had an anti-Tory coalition in all but name, certainly as far as Brexit was concerned. Post-election bounces aren't unprecedented. The change of Labour leader may well have an effect - temporarily or not - in three months' time. Could we see 50% Conservative? Unlikely I’d have thought but getting close. I’m surprised that 3% still said Brexit Party. I don't think the Conservatives will go much higher than where they are. But it will be interesting to see if 31st January has an effect. I can see why the BxP might still be on 3% - people who won't believe Brexit will happen until they see it, people unhappy with the WA and former Labour voters who wouldn't ever vote Tory.
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Post by froome on Jan 19, 2020 7:16:19 GMT
Is this the first time UKIP have registered 0%?
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Post by yellowperil on Jan 19, 2020 8:06:28 GMT
Note the changes in the lifetime of this thread (just over 7 years) Conservative: +18 Labour: -8 UKIP: -13 Lib Dem: unchanged BP: +3
So the rise of the Tories is 10 points from UKIP and 8 points from Labour
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Post by BossMan on Jan 19, 2020 9:15:15 GMT
Is this the first time UKIP have registered 0%? They've been in existence since the early 1990s, so no. I'm guessing people began to notice them when they first won seats in the 1999 European Parliament elections, but they would have been classed as part of the "Others" in any poll in those days.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 19, 2020 10:16:53 GMT
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Jan 20, 2020 8:57:20 GMT
He is currently doing better than I expected. The caveat is so far.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jan 20, 2020 9:18:36 GMT
But that's a pretty low bar to clear, surely?
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 20, 2020 9:28:03 GMT
But that's a pretty low bar to clear, surely? I don't think so. The public don't think so. The electorate didn't think so. His bar is about average hight for a politician. Now Corbyn does have a low bar. One has to look down for it. And you Liberal chaps! Well really! You need to be limbo dancers of skill to get under the Farron or Swansong low bar. You need to be able to crawl!
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Jan 20, 2020 9:28:58 GMT
But that's a pretty low bar to clear, surely?
Yes that's true.
Unfortunately for Labour and the Liberal Democrats, since the election they've been doing as badly or worse than expected, so they have missed even Boris Johnson's low bar.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 18:35:20 GMT
Interesting that Labour's manifesto was the most popular thing of everything polled about the Labour Party from its former leaders to its policy on brexit
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Post by london(ex)tory on Jan 21, 2020 22:46:42 GMT
Interesting that Labour's manifesto was the most popular thing of everything polled about the Labour Party from its former leaders to its policy on brexit Ok keep consoling yourself with a deluded idea that you somehow "won the argument". I'll console myself with an 80 seat majority.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 15:02:03 GMT
Interesting that Labour's manifesto was the most popular thing of everything polled about the Labour Party from its former leaders to its policy on brexit Ok keep consoling yourself with a deluded idea that you somehow "won the argument". I'll console myself with an 80 seat majority. not my poll
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Post by manchesterman on Feb 15, 2020 21:16:46 GMT
Quite interesting, if not surprising
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